You're ob-, obviously a NorPac. but I think there's other things happening there it's like in this time that we're in, which is like pretty, anti-science he's getting across these scientific ideas by not sounding like he's shouting at you from the ivory tower, right? Like the most unofficial citizen scientist possibly you could think of is now one of the researchers,being noted on the, the government paper of record on this stuff. interface language. I don't know why. I mean, on some level it looks, it looks like a weed. Larsen: After hearing Joey talk about milkweed, I'm personally in the mood to go plant a whole shit ton of it maybe even in places where I'm not supposed to. I grew up hearin people talk like dat. And in particular, that pup being in thinner body condition and being possibly hungry, that wouldnt be unexpected to see it at different times of day or night, she explains. Larsen: Using a stick that does not seem nearly long enough to me, Joey herds the snake out of harm's way as it flicks its tongue ominously, seeming to tolerate -- just barely -- this loud, swearing man trying to save it. This episode was brought to you by Mississippi, a wonderland for outdoor adventurers. However, the downtime has allowed him to post more videos about botanizing the Bay Area. But many thrive, and some of his earliest plantings are now impressive specimens. But please dont bite me. Joey Santore is a photographer, presenter, botanist, known for Crime Pays But Botany Doesn't (2019). Larsen: This is journalist Jesse Will, who profiled Joey for Outside Online. I would be a lot more angry of a person if I didn't have this. Paintings. He is diversity. What drew you to making videos about botany? Might just be cooking up carbs, storing it in that tuber and then going dormant for a while. Asclepius prostrata, the prostrate milkweed. Which brings us to a big question: If Joey can get thousands of people invested in the fate of a scraggly weed, what kind of impact can he have on science and conservation at large? He played college football at Ohio State and was selected third overall by the (then San Diego) Chargers in the 2016 NFL Draft, where he was named NFL Defensive Rookie . A lot of people [who] find that YouTube page seem really upset to find out that Elwood Blues is not really a botanist. If you want to take a look at what I've been up to more seriously, check out my resume. Santore: I thought you was a gopher snake at first. All right. The video captivated peoples hearts and went massively viral, with people applauding Santore for his commitment to trying to help the coyote and loving the thicker than normal Chicago accent that he puts on for his videos. By Monday morning, the clip had 8 million views and hundreds of thousands retweets and likes. Released on 03/11/2022. When autocomplete results are available use up and down arrows to review and enter to select. The Outside Podcast is made possible by our Outside+ members. The mannerisms at least among the white people out there were super soft and delicate and kind of passive, with an NPR voice. I want to help you but I dont want to get bitten, he tells the pup in his put-on accent. And then the YouTube account blew up, which is cool. He's squatting in carpenter jeans and dusty black oxfords, scanning each. My work has appeared in newsprint, magazines, websites, and the missed connections section of Craigslist, where I write personalized notes to drivers who cut me off in traffic. And even more specifically, conifers. Some of his tree babies meet an untimely end, felled by pollution, city maintenance, or swerving vehicles. Let's see. Check out our Patreon page for more info. We spoke to Santore about his complicated feelings on his newfound fame, how the natural world can be abalm for modern anxieties, and why he plays up his Chicago accent for the camera. World United States United Kingdom Canada Australia South Africa Israel India France Belgium Switzerland. And then, uh, of course these are a couple of mine as well. But if it gives me a chance to get more people excited about botany and plants and viewing the world outside of this depressing human infrastructure in society that I think is killing so many of us slowly, then I guess its good then I guess the clickbait coyote video served a purpose and its all part of my grandiose plan to get more people interested in science and ecology and I guess, this sounds corny, the natural world in general.. (Joey Santore). First he delved into various sciences and then focused, increasingly, on botany. I thought, "Oh, shit!" First in his backyard in Oakland, and then, as he ran out of space, at the median park close by that became the star of that illegal tree planting video. I found it hard to swallow. Even if it gets really ugly, it's still gonna be okay. Much of his audience, no doubt, shares his worldview: in a landscape of American cultural decline, the study of natural sciences and ecological systems are all that make sense right now. Trees that can hack it without pruning and summer watering. There's something to be said for keeping something like this around, you know, it's, it's a part of this, this interwoven fabric that supports it, supports the life that's been here for millions of years and is part of the bigger picture. 3 min read. Larsen: And they did find some. Look at that beautiful bastard, not flowering yet may not flower this year at all. I would just be going [to school] to learn this stuff rather than get that piece of paper and thats kind of the whole idea behind the Crime Pays But Botany Doesnt thing. Maren Larsen (host): From Outside magazine, this is the Outside podcast. Today. Something about that old school Chicago accent conjuring the late, great Dennis Farina combined with his attempt to help an ailing animal seems to be key to the videos popularity. So a lot of them just kind of look like shit, right. I, of course, would let my common sense and care for an animal in need override their recommendation if it happened again, but I understand why they have to say that.. and the majority of the day, we're looking for this rare milkweed Asclepias prostrata. But then Monday when I woke up and was about to head back down south and take her to the wildlife rehab, she had already passed that night., Santore says that although the coyotes death wasnt entirely unexpected, it still hit him hard. He's on your level. To find enough real estate to survive, these prostrata often end up finding their home in the middle of the road. Here's Joey pointing out a colony of the quarter-sized gray-green buttons in the video he made about the day. and the majority of the day, we're looking for this rare milkweed Asclepias prostrata. I mix tragedy with comedy to make it more digestible and less futile-seeming. After hearing Joey talk about milkweed, I'm personally in the mood to go plant a whole shit ton of it maybe even in places where I'm not supposed to. And especially where we are now as a species with our understanding of science and the world and all this technology that we have. It's this squat plant. So its mostly a joke, because most science communication is dry and boring. And Jesse's with me. Santore: The biggest population of it keeps repeatedly getting cleared by a well-intended, albeit somewhat oblivious, road grader. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our, Digital [Outside the city], there's Wolf Road Prairie, [plus] a couple prairies down in Markham. Then there are people who got sucked in because of one of those viral videos. Santore: I kind of joke humans have like the king might've shit touch, you know, everywhere we go, even if the intent is good, there's enough of us. Painted on the side of an eight-story building, the fiery teenager looks determined and unbowed, gazing down at pedestrians and traffic with eyes the size of windscreens. Santore: They planted a lot of these roses, which are dying and they planted a bunch of trees that are native to the Eastern U.S. You're ob-, obviously a NorPac. Magazines, Or create a free account to access more articles, 'It Just Kind of Struck Me.' Thats basically all I do is I look at rare plants, I photograph them, I make notes and then share that information with the general public and make silly botany videos too., "It looked grossly malnourished. I want to get more people excited about it, because theres a lot of dark (crud) coming our way. That's near Kankakee. "I liked trees originally because they are so big. She also warns that rehabilitating a lone coyote pup is a particularly complicated venture. And especially where we are now as a species with our understanding of science and the world and all this technology that we have. He hasn't looked back ever since. Kind of a bummer! Midewin National Tall Grass Prairie is another excellent one, down by Joliet. This blend of well-informed science, minor lawbreaking, and humorous rants about the ills of society is what draws people to Joey's YouTube channel, as well as his Instagram account, and his podcast. by Joey Santore, a self-taught botanist and producer of Crime Pays But Botany Doesn't YouTube channel, which he describes as "a low-brow, crass approach to plant ecology as muttered by a misanthropic Chicago Italian.". Oh, yeah, there we go. I think it's kind of risky. What is plant systematics? I bet a bunch of illegal tree planting. Then theres his voice: a native Chicagoan, he can sound like hes on an SNL skit about Da Bears. Joey had always liked railroads. And it clearly has a special place in Joey's heart, based on a t-shirt he sells. don't you dare rattle that fucking thing at me. content language. Joey travels around the world and takes you on plant walks, with colorful commentary. As Jesse points out, what makes Joey's videos different from so many of the strangely popular educational personalities found on YouTube, is that we rarely see much of Joey himself. Learn more about all the adventures to be had across Mississippi at visitmississippi.org. In the video we see a gentleman who I believe sincerely was coming from a place of compassion, Monroe told TIME. And that's why he's lovingly bullying it out of the road, just like he did that rattlesnake. And maybe you have a better likelihood of accepting. Despite Santores good intentions, its never a good idea for humans to interact with a wild animal in this way regardless of the situation, Victoria Monroe, the California Department of Fish and Wildlifes Conflict Programs Coordinator says. And, uh, Joey Sentore is like mentioned, you know, in terms of this plant. I think the video obviously it got a lot of hits I think it touched people in different ways. The tragedy here is we're destroying a lot of this as our population grows, so I guess that's where my misanthropy comes up. That's one of mine. The biggest population of it keeps repeatedly getting cleared by a well-intended, albeit somewhat oblivious, road grader. But he also had this aside at the time, that was like, I get it, yeah of course you had to pitch the psychedelic angle. I asked what he thought about the video going viral. The Landscape Architecture Podcast. I like the ambiance of railroads. From Outside magazine, this is the Outside podcast. Guerrilla gardener Joey Santore has planted more than 300 trees, encouraging a new appreciation of our habitatand one another. "I'm stuffing envelopes proper now," he advised me from his house in West Oakland. Listen to me. Joey sees an integral and resilient piece of an ecosystem. But is now just kind of leftover. Rainy winter is planting season, giving his seedlings months to take root. You can plant this thing that would outlive you and maybe destroy the sidewalk," says Oakland resident Joey Santore, whose viral video " Tony Santoro's Guide to Illegal Tree-Planting " playfully documents his subversive efforts to reforest his neighborhood. You get, for instance, a cactus that's native to the Chicago area. He's going to take that opportunity to, uh, go drive the vroom vroom around and what the shit, you know, let's keep going. He's going to take that opportunity to, uh, go drive the vroom vroom around and what the shit, you know, let's keep going. Well, first off, I'm not really trying to create YouTube fluff. Write to Megan McCluskey at megan.mccluskey@time.com. As Jesse points out, what makes Joey's videos different from so many of the strangely popular educational personalities found on YouTube, is that we rarely see much of Joey himself. When you speak to them in person that accent gets dialed way back down. But if [the video] gets people to smile a little bit, that's cool. I just want to create a more pleasant place to go, he says, and provide some sort of food or benefit to birds, bugs, and shit like that.. Right. According to Jesse Will, Joey's subscribers don't fit any kind of mold. It's everyone from dope growers to amateur science geeks to viewers who just stumbled onto his YouTube. It was funny, going out to California when I moved out there. This rekindled his love for the sciences, but it wasn't until he found a used astronomy textbook that he really started to get obsessed. The YouTube field botany videos came along later, when he realized that much of the habitat he was enhancing, and in some cases creating, merited documentation before it disappeared to make way for a futureless car-slum, as he puts it. You got to get out of the road. He has rather unexpectedly earned a bit of internet fame due to his passion for a far less adrenaline-inducing subject: plants. I associate them with a place to like get away from people and, kind of open air playground. (Photo by Jesse Will) I called Joey Santore just as he'd returned from a botanizing trip to South Africa. I went out and bought some of these books that you recommended and I'm learning so much. That's what really makes it worth it gettingpeople excited about learning and the natural world, which is the antidote to all the ugliness and stress and anxiety of the human world. What do you hope viewers take away from your channel? By Saturday morning, the clip more than 6 million views and hundreds of thousands retweets and likes. For his part, Santore says that while he understands why the Department of Fish and Wildlife recommends avoiding direct contact with wild animals, he feels there can be extenuating circumstances. I don't know why you're taking that kind of stance with me. Cmere, hey, youre OK, shhh, a mans voice can be heard as he runs after a small, skittish coyote through the tall grass. By his own estimate, he has planted somewhere between 300 and 400 trees, mostly native and drought-tolerant oaks and cypresses, along medians and in parks. Thats not true. Unfortunately when I found her, I was so far out in the middle of nowhere and I didnt really realize how sick she was until later that night when I brought her home, he says. Earlier this month, WTTW Channel 11 profiled him (using the name Joey Santore) and though he does have a noticeable Chicago accent, its not nearly as heavy as what you hear in his nature videos (or his voice memo to me). So they kind of enter this wormhole that's talking about a whole universe, of natural life. Okay. He tried going to college, but while he enjoyed learning, it seemed like a waste of time and money since he didn't yet know what he wanted to do. I ended up bringing it to the house I was staying at about 15 miles away and called around for wildlife rescue and the nearest one was about a 2 hour drive south. To find enough real estate to survive, these prostrata often end up finding their home in the middle of the road. When I was a kid, a lot of my friends had dads like that. Well, he's not pilfered. Larsen: But Joey's influence goes beyond just getting laypeople to care about the things growing in their neighborhoods. They planted a lot of these roses, which are dying and they planted a bunch of trees that are native to the Eastern U.S. On his YouTube channel, Crime Pays But Botany Doesn't, which has close to 260,000 subscribers, the vast majority of his videos have him giving half-hour-plus-long lectures on topics like plant morphology and evolutionary relationships in his very distinctive accent. Joey is standing in the middle of a road in Central California, filming with his phone as he has a heart-to-heart with a very distressed looking Northern Pacific rattlesnake. (Picture by Jesse Will) I known as Joey Santore simply as he'd returned from a botanizing journey to South Africa. It's totally fascinating stuff, man. And, and when I talked to him on the phone, he's he's like, yeah, I know where some populations of that are, you know, I'm going to go look for some new ones. Joey Santore, based in Oakland, California, specializing in Cupressaceae, currently studying native California Cypresses. And I, my friend's pilfered scooter. It's kind of funny. I went to college and studied sociology and communication but dropped out to travel. What he's talking about, if he's speaking directly to you. Looking for Tony Santoro online? [laughs] And I had a pang of regret. And they did find some. Guerrilla gardener Joey Santore has planted more than 300 trees, encouraging a new appreciation of our habitatand one another. Right. You have to reach almost a critical mass, like a minimum number of coyote pups of similar age in a rehab situation to rear so that way theyre positioned for success when you release. Okay. This plant has adapted to lie dormant in its underground rhizome for years until conditions are right. The Chicago vernacular is kind of dyin out, especially as cities get more gentrified and you get more dog day care and coffee boutiques moving into these old Chicago neighborhoods. And then, uh, of course these are a couple of mine as well. He was kicked out of military school and got into graffiti and the punk scene. Editors Note: Transcriptions of episodes of the Outside Podcast are created with a mix of speech recognition software and human transcribers, and may contain some grammatical errors or slight deviations from the audio. Larsen: Asclepias prostrata is just one species, native to one relatively small ecosystem. Santore: There's something to be said for keeping something like this around, you know, it's, it's a part of this, this interwoven fabric that supports it, supports the life that's been here for millions of years and is part of the bigger picture. Sorry. Specifically, trees. Among Santores fans are plant geeks, outdoor enthusiasts, and cannabis growers who were worm-holed into Santores channel while looking up plant propagation. "I'm stuffing envelopes right now," he told me from his home in West Oakland. I was just in Sonora, Mexico, looking at plants. The first steps to learning more is realizingyour own ignorance, and then beingwillingto work beyond that. I wasnt able to make it there that day so I decided I would bring it there the next morning. Joey Bosa was responsible for one of the more costly moments of the Los Angeles Chargers' collapse Saturday, taking a crucial 15-yard penalty after losing his temper on the sideline. Can anyone help? But Joey's influence goes beyond just getting laypeople to care about the things growing in their neighborhoods. Anyway guys, here we are once again. First he delved into various sciences and then focused, increasingly, on botany. Along his routes, he would stop at libraries and gain free access to academic papers with the help of pirate websites. Los Angeles Chargers defensive end Joey Bosa wasn't happy with the officials on Saturday night. I kind of joke humans have like the king might've shit touch, you know, everywhere we go, even if the intent is good, there's enough of us. Well, hopefully people will hear this and, you know, chase down this stuff. You know, and I just dont want to get bitten. Joey: You know, and I kind of like seeing trees. And even more specifically, conifers.
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