The american system often reminds me of what Charles Dickens talked about in his novels. I feel sorry for Diane too. You are not the only one who thinks she is guilty and I know that getting their man at all cost is a popular mantra, but I disagree. 132 records for Robert Knickerbocker. The last time I checked, it is my website and if you find it tiresome, no one is inviting you to stay or read the content; which you evidently did not read anyway. That disinformation was alleged by Mr. Hugi the third day into Jim Jaggers defense and it was never objected to by Mr. Jagger . They hated her attitude and thought she was promiscuous and showed no sorrow or remorse. James C. Jagger who was hired by Dianes father was an ex-Prosecutor. The fact that the accused in this case was atypical, makes her the perfect target. But you dont mention that she again has changed her story.. She said no mother would stop at 10 at night, in the dark, with three young children, to help a Bush haired stranger. But, after she had moved to Oregon for her job with the U.S. postal service, Roger reconciled with his wife. Click here to read the complaint. She never mentioned that before, and she doesnt mention the FBI agents name. The role of Diane Downs was played by none other than Farrah Fawcett and her lover was played by Ryan ONeal who had been Farrahs love interest in real life. They are the ones who considered Dianes children as Small Sacrifices. Wasnt he the stranger? All these years later, Diane Downs still maintains her innocence. This same witness corroborated that Diane did not stop to do something suspicious or dispose of the gun. Dianes automobile was secured and examined and no gun was found. So they did everything in their power to slant the media and the public in their favor. You cant possibly shake off all the gun powder residue and avoid all the blood. It deserved as much attention as a Unicorn, a song or all the other hearsay floating around because at least, they came from real people signing official documents. Aint no one gonna tarnish my guys lol. She entertained the idea of opening a surrogacy agency but the project never really took off. Ann Rule has always been sensationalist, and her books were almost unreadable at the end of her publishing days. It became more about despising Diane Downs than investigating fairly. My opposition to movies about true crime stories is unshakable. According to your own experience Lori, dont they try to give grandparents custody or at least access in cases comparable to this one? And these men in black perceived this as an act of war, and proceeded to go after them with every legal or illegal means at their disposal. It opened a huge can of worms regarding the real identity of the heart full of lies in this case. Nothing in this blog claims Diane is innocent. This is also a faster route to give the children permanency, and is far cheaper for the child welfare system that is always strained by the budget. The hell with doubts, ballistics and pesky details about the shooting, we cannot disagree becausethere is hunting and fishing to do and friendships to uphold. Downs tried to defend herself against the allegations and said, "Why would I have taken my kids to the hospital? This unhealthy marriage survived and became a daily struggle. Judges are subject to certain ethical standards and have a duty to be impartial. The person leaned into the car. The presence or absence of records for any individual is not a guarantee of any kind. N u pleaded guilty of murdering ur husband. This coercion came to Dianes attention in January 1989 (Appendix 39). Page 41 of case history. Instead of talking about her being locked up for so long, answer some very legitimate questions regarding this case. Someone said to me that any of us, if scrutinized under a microscope, would come out looking pretty bad. WTF? They would have welcomed them with open arms. Gunpowder is one of the toughest stains around, when it comes to removing it from clothes. I dont. She had no blood spatter or gun powder residue on her hands,clothing or hair. Plus: California man uses Bitcoin to pay hitman to murder his ex; police accuse woman of abandoning baby found frozen to death in 1985; woman who may be victim of alleged D.C. serial killer identified; and Ghislaine Maxwell makes bid for lighter sentence. The kids were shorted-changed. And the state refusing to turn them over to the defense? The bitches own daughter identified Downs as the shooter. You dont get any kind of advancement or rehabilitation in prison. Thats why Diane wouldnt agree to marry unless Knick first signed a premarital agreement that when they divorced, Knick would take nothing from their marriage. If she was such a manipulative person, she would not be in prison for life, would she? And after Diane left Arizona she didnt call Knick to inquire about his love, but rather about when he would repay the $500 (Appendix 81, pages 1479-1480). Reddit is a social news website where the registered users submit content, in the form of either a link or a text post. Related To . It may take up to 1 hour for your comment to appear on the website. Just before 11 P.M., Downs pulled her blood-soaked car up to the door of McKenzie-Willamette Hospital and screamed, Somebody just shot my kids! Cheryl, seven; lay dead in the front seat, and Christie, eight; and Danny, three; were sprawled in the back seat, clinging to life. No. How.. they attacked him. . They removed them and proceeded to interrogate the poor girl until she gave them what they needed. In case you did not read the blog: During Dianes examination at trial, Fred Hugi said in front of the jury, in the form of a question, that she had been diagnosed as a deviant sociopath. Most importantly why would anybody shoot 3 children potentially fatally and leave the adult with a wound in her arm. Insulting a woman in prison since 30 years instead of debating the inconsistencies of this case is pretty pathetic. Mission accomplished: Relevance? It was positive only on a small portion of her upper hand where she said the gun touched her when she wrestled with the attacker (a detail she had mentioned before they did the test). What was the justification? But she suffered from mental illness and the circumstances were traumatic. The guy should have walked away from the case or from adopting them. But, Diane also claimed that Robert had told her that he was planning on leaving his wife and moving to Oregon to be with her. Any thoughts on how the detectives basically made up their mind right away in spite of numerous tips coming in? It was not unlike brainwashing. Now Diane Downs did not say any of this, but told a hard to believe story, and then changed it from one to two masked guys, etc. Our laws are not written that way. The unreliability of childrens testimony has been documented by cognitive psychologists such as Elizabeth Loftus of the University of Cornell and others. Caught in the act, Hugi declared that Christie only said that because she was pressed for an answer. Go reading US: The American Gulag, 26 Mar 2009 Exploding prison populations in the US serve a basic need of capitalism. But if the blogger is arguing that the blog is balanced and objective, thats patently untrue. I would like to raise the numerous issues with this blog. Diane Downs had an affair with Roger Knickerbocker, a married man while she lived in Arizona. It is not a hatefest and I do not wish death or life without parole on anyone. I can make out I will ask you to take a good look at the people in your life. Of course buying drugs with three kids in the middle of the night from a guy like that is not the mindful thing to do, but would be more consistent as an explanation for her actions. Christie Downs was eight-years old when she was injured and nine-years old when she testified. Where is the blood spatter on Diane? Your prayers were answered. The rest of the family? You do not refute any of the points I made in the blogs. Police interviewed Steve Downs about his ex-wife and discovered that she owned a .22 caliber gun like the one used in the shootings. So Diane did what she thought would bring her the deepest satisfaction in life; she became a mother. They should have taken the time necessary to find enough evidence. I think that the time she has served and her good behavior made her eligible for parole. They had him micromanaged, and with the testimony of little Christie they were in business. (Appendix 81, page 1466). Looking for Robert Knickerbocker? Whenever your shoot a gun that many times and that close to the victims, theres going to be blood and powder residues. I try to bring up the elements that were totally ignored. Other names that Robert uses includes Robert A Knickerbocker. ?.the fact you are ignoring something SO OBVIOUS is a red flag. .well yay for youtubelol..is when I first heard her in old interviews. As a married man, the ball was in his court and he decided togo forit. Phone . I went on ebay and ordered multiple stuff from the 80s, news footage, just to hear what she sounded like, because of all the talk in the book about her demeanor. He then left !his second wife, Charlene, to cohabitate with (and propose marriage to) Diane. The implication was not only cruel, in the light of what Diane was suffering, it was also clear. What a terrible injustice. Nothing came from Diane herself. I still dont buy her story. 4. Now in hindsight, seeing footage on youtube, especially the interview she did with the reporter Anne Jagger, the things she says and facial expression is exactly described in the bookhad to find the section in the book, but on that note, Anne rule did site that interview correctly. I dont care what Diane Downs says at the parole board hearing, except if she is innocent or guilty. Needless to say, you seem to have a problem with the American justice systemnot each individual case. There was no question in Dianes mind that Knick would take another mistress if she married him, and that hed move on again. I might not have put enough information to your liking, but I stuck to what came out at trial and not the fantasy factory coming from the state, the media and Rule. And he was found not guilty because his defense team played the race card in an area of LA where they did not trust the police and discussed EDTA and DNA ad nauseam to confuse the jurors. A conviction founded on lies is no conviction at all. Page 50 of Case History And Steven was free to follow her lead or not. If Hugi got attached to the children, why did he wait 2 years when little Christie was starting to say she had no clue who shot them? The ghastly crimes were not perpetrated by a nameless, faceless stranger as she told police, but seemingly by Diane Downs herself. The tape is real and probably not admissible, but it seems to indicate that her testimony was coerced. In the moment of who shot youmy momhave a hard time believing that could be coached. Actor Robert Blake was found not guilty of the shooting murder of his wife. Im glad you continued to look for more information as time went on. Dean has 2 jobs listed on their profile. Postal Service to be closer to her parents. The prosecutor would gently shake his head and the good judge would follow with a ruling. But the Parole Board refused to hear her. Apparently drug mafia wanted to punish her for messing her nose in forbidden places, not because she was getting any real business in that but simply because she had one of the poorest judgements a person can have. Lets not take that lightly. The man you have listed as Fred Hugi is actually Dianes attorney Jim Jagger. Two jurors had voted that Diane was not guilty of attempted murder or first-degree assault, but endedup voting to convict her of murder. So either way, it would not be so far fetched that someone said he was the shooter.A little investigation would not hurt. I am a Mortuary science student, true crime fanatic, and have been following the Downs case since it happened. Christie was only eight, had suffered gunshot wounds and was in shock. I appreciate the way you dont try to determine guilt or innocence in your blogs but instead focus on due process and the right of all to a fair trial. You have that part absolutely right, so why was this protocol ignored? Would you know at what speed you are going if you were shot and driving with wounded children in the car? Otherwise you just want people to fill your echo chamber that agree with you, tell anyone else you obviously dont want to debate me.., then ban, then hope for people to agree. She talked to Diane for 15 minutes, there was thebizarre and partialOprah interview that was basically a lets bash Diane event and she wrote to Diane in jail to ask her what she thought of Hugi adopting her children. Whether or not Mrs. Frederickson could have attacheda clinical lab to Dianes not being herself the day the Detectives pressured Diane to accompany them, the fact is Diane was clearly suffering the residual effects of that chemical poison in her system. I do not have to state anything at the beginning of the blog. Do not take this so personally. According to her hospital records, every 6 hours she was given 400 milligrams of Dilantin (which is noted for causing confusion). Her flat affect is even more pronounced now and it did her in at the time, but she was lucid enough to clearly see that Rule and the media used Becky for their personal gain. Diane may very well be guilty, but YIKES this investigation and trial seemed so butchered and tilted in the prosecutions favour. Information and advice to help you cope with the death of someone important to you. The jurors had doubts. Ways to honor Robert Knickerbocker's life and legacy. Christie was understandably all over the place and I agree that the way in which her statements were procured were very odd and seemed to be very coached. 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